Debbie Flores Narvaez was an intelligent and talented young dancer who pursued her passion here in Las Vegas.. but then disappeared without a trace. In this episode, we learn what happened to her, and who was responsible.
The horror of this one is not to be understated, and it impacted so many people including Debbie's family and the whole Las Vegas community, especially the performers.
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Jennifer Romas' Dance Tribute to Debbie
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Episode 18 - Part 2
In Part 1 of Debbie’s story, her star was on the rise. The dance number she had poured her heart into was about to debut on the Vegas strip.
Debbie had worked tirelessly for months and built the performance from the ground up. Her friends and family were concerned when Debbie missed the final rehearsals, and they knew something was horribly wrong when she never showed up for opening night.
Las Vegas Metro had questioned her on-again off-again boyfriend Jason Griffith, who was likely the last person to have seen Debbie before her disappearance. He cooperated with the police, but his history of domestic violence incidents had the Las Vegas community on edge. Where was Debbie?
[Shaun]
Hi and welcome to Sins and Survivors, a Las Vegas true crime podcast, where we focus on cases that deal with domestic violence. I’m your host, Shaun, and with me as always, is the one and only John.
[John]
I am the only John in the room.
[Shaun]
Thanks for joining us for part 2 of Debbie’s story. If you haven’t had a chance yet to listen to Part 1, we recommend you go give that a listen now before diving in here.
When we left off in part 1, the Las Vegas Metro Police Department didn’t have any new leads on Debbie’s disappearance, and they needed someone to come forward with information. Debbie was last seen on December 12, 2010. Debbie’s car was found two days later, abandoned with no plates, Debbie’s phone and computer inside and untouched since December 12th – but nothing on, in, or around the car offered any answers as to where Debbie had gone or what had happened to her.
Her roommate said that she left their condo on December 12, planning to go watch the Dexter finale with her boyfriend Jason. Jason said he did see her briefly that night, but stated she had gone to hang out with friends, and he told police she may have been considering ending her life because she was distraught over their break up.
Celeste, Debbie’s sister, had forgone spending the holidays with her two young children, instead, she felt she had no choice but to spend the holidays in Vegas, searching for Debbie.
Celeste was quoted by 8 news now in Vegas saying. "I don't get to see my kids. I don't get to see her. I don't get to be with my family. It's just another day for me. It's not Christmas Eve in my book. My family's incomplete, and I'm just trying to put them back together again."
[John]
On January 5, 2011, the police received the tip they were looking for. A witness had information relevant to the case and wanted to speak to detectives. The witness chose to approach a friend of hers, who had a connection to a Metro police officer, who then brought the information to the lead detective on the case.
It’s a little bit of a game of telephone, for reasons that will become clear in a minute.
The witness, who we will call “Jessica” - was an ex-girlfriend of Jason’s. The two of them remained friendly although they had broken up.
I want to add that this person is yet another girlfriend of Jason’s that he was dating while he dating Debbie, and while he was also married. Did we mention that? Yes. We discovered that Jason was actually married this whole time. He was married in 2006.
According to Jessica, on December 14, Jason called her and asked if it was okay for him to store something at her house for a little while, while he was getting ready to move to a new place. She told him that it would be fine if she had the room.
She was shocked when he pulled up in front of her house with a large U-haul because she wasn’t expecting to store a lot of items for him.
[Shaun]
Jessica said Jason wasn’t alone - his roommate, Louis Colombo, was with him. When they opened the U-haul there was just one item inside.
A large, blue plastic storage tub,
the tub didn’t have a lid on it, and it was filled with a gray substance that she was sure was concrete. The concrete was bumpy on the top, and the tub was bulging out on one side.
Jessica, of course, was confused, and was thinking like, “what is going on here?” She decided to ask Jason, what’s in that tub.
According to Jessica, Jason hesitated before he told her. His demeanor was, Are you sure you want to know? Finally he told her, “Debbie is in there.”
Jessica was horrified and terrified and told him to “get the tub the fuck out of here”
Jason and Louis left with the truck.
Jessica did not contact the police right away, because she was scared that whatever had happened to Debbie could happen to her. Jessica had decided to speak to a friend who had a connection to the police department, so she could feel safe in making this anonymous tip.
[John]
The police followed up on the tip by going to U-haul rental locations close to Jason’s house. They checked rental agreements and surveillance footage and discovered that Jason and Louis had rented a truck and two utility dollies around 11 am on December 14. The truck was returned outside of normal business hours, very early in the morning on December 16. Jason and Louis were seen on surveillance video leaving the keys to the truck in the drop box.
The rental truck had a GPS inside it that allowed the police to track the movements of the Uhaul during Jason’s rental period. It had been parked overnight on December 14th at a Flying J truck stop location in Las Vegas.
This was a particularly important piece of evidence because it connected to another piece of evidence the police had collected back in December but didn’t reveal to the press, her family, or to the news media.
On December 22, the police had executed a search warrant at Jason’s home and recovered a receipt from a Flying J truck stop that showed the purchase of sponges and bleach made on December 15.
[Shaun]
On January 7, 2011, Jason’s roommate, Louis, was interviewed by homicide detectives. Louis agreed to talk, so long as he would be immune from arrest and prosecution.
The police agreed to Louis’s conditions, probably because the police aren’t the ones that make the deals, the district attorneys do, but in any event, Louis was reassured and gave his statement.
According to Louis, Debbie did come to his and Jason’s house on the evening of December 12, to watch “Dexter,” as Debbie had told her roommate she was going to do. Later that evening, Debbie and Jason got into an argument, and Jason grabbed Debbie by the throat and began strangling her.
According to the police report, Louis QUOTE "had to pull Griffith off of Flores Narvaez because he was choking her with his hands around her neck,"
Louis broke up the fight and was able to get the two of them to calm down. He had to leave the apartment around 8:20 pm to meet up with his girlfriend.
He said at 10:30pm he received a text from Jason that said not to bring his girlfriend back to the house.
When Louis got back home Jason met him at the front door and told him that this was a "change your diaper moment."
[John]
Louis entered the house and saw Debbie, lying on the floor, with a plastic bag on her face. Louis went to the bathroom and threw up. When he returned, he could tell that Debbie was dead. She wasn’t breathing, and she was cold to the touch.
According to Louis, Jason then told him that Debbie had said that her throat was hurting and she wanted to call for an ambulance. That was when Jason grabbed her from behind and choked her until she died.
Louis then explained how he and Jason discussed what to do with Debbie’s body. They purchased a tub and concrete, mixed up the concrete in their garage, fit Debbie’s body into the tub, and encased her with concrete.
The combined weight of the filled tub was 700 pounds.
Louis confirmed the details Jessica had shared – Louis and Jason rented the Uhaul and the dollies and had brought the tub to Jessica’s house,l but she refused to let them store the tub there. They also had attempted to store the tub at an undisclosed building but were unable to move it to the second floor (because it weighed 700 lbs)
They then parked the U-haul truck at the Flying J truck stop overnight.
The next day, Jason got the keys to a house that belonged to some friends of his who were out of the country. Louis brought the tub to that house by himself and noticed it had started leaking when he moved it into the house. He ended up leaving the tub there for a few days.
[Shaun]
This next part of what Louis told the police is particularly gruesome and horrifying.
Jason and Louis went to a Walmart to purchase additional tubs, tools, and concrete. They returned to the house and chiseled Debbie out of the concrete, dismembered her, and placed her in two separate tubs, and once again, covered her with concrete.
They placed the tubs in a closet of the house, and sealed the doors shut with spray foam insulation. They gathered up their tools and sealed those inside of a different closet.
They left the broken pieces of concrete and the blue bin on the floor of the living room of the house.
Louis told the police where to the house was located. The police obtained a search warrant and when they entered the home, they found the broken concrete pieces, the blue bin, and the sealed up closets just as Louis had described. And in one of the closets were the two bins containing Debbie’s remains.
The police also conducted further investigation into Jason. They discovered that in November of 2010, a friend of Jason’s had reported to North Las Vegas Police that jason had sent him a text that indicated that Jason was contemplating ending his own life.
The police did a welfare check on Jason, and placed him on a “Legal 2000” hold, which gives the police or medical professionals the ability to hold a person who’s in a mental health crisis in a mental health treatment facility for up to 72 hours. Jason was brought to a hospital and released a short time later.
Also, another ex-girlfriend of Jason’s came forward to the police and said that on December 7th or 8th of 2010, Jason had texted her and asked her if she knew where he could get a gun. She did not know what he wanted the gun for.
[John]
On January 8, 2011, the police stopped Jason as he was leaving work at the Love show around 11:50pm. They told him he wasn’t under arrest, but they wanted to ask some more questions about Debbie’s disappearance. He agreed to talk to them, but he commented that he hadn’t been read his Miranda rights.
The officers read him his rights, and Jason signed a card acknowledging that had happened, and that he understood and he was waiving his right to an attorney and remain silent.
Jason said that he didn’t have anything to do with Debbie’s death. He denied that he killed her on purpose or accidentally.
He was questioned about the Uhaul, and he admitted to renting it. He told the police that he needed the Uhaul to pick up a punching bag stand and other workout equipment from a friend, although he wouldn't say who the friend was or where they lived.
The officers then tried asking Jason about Debbie’s body and some of the details Louis had given them, but Jason refused to answer those questions without his attorney present.
[Shaun]
Police placed Jason under arrest and transported him to the Clark County Detention Center. While he was being transported, Jason allegedly said to the police officer that Debbie’s death QUOTE “was not a premeditated thing” and QUOTE “it was a heat of the moment thing.” UNQUOTE He explained that he thought Debbie had a gun and that she had attacked him.
According to the police report, the officer responded to Jason and said that no one was going to believe that. Jason said Debbie had QUOTE “forced him to do what he did.” The police report also stated that Jason had said that "he did all the amateurish stuff afterwards"
January 11th the coroner ruled Debbie’s death was a homicide, and that she had died from asphyxiation.
Jason was arraigned on January 12 on charges of murder. He pleaded not guilty, and was held without bail.
During the arraignment, Celeste, who was present of course, made headlines when she justifiably screamed at Jason when she saw him.
She shouted from the back of the courtroom "I hope you rot in hell you fucking asshole for what you did to her! you fucking asshole, i hope you rot in hell, i hope you rot in hell," according to reporting from ABC Channel 13.
Celeste later told the press, "I guess I just kind of blacked out and said it.”
[John]
Very few people know what Celeste was feeling that day, but I cant imagine blaming her for reacting like that
[Shaun]
In the midst of all of this pain, Celeste and her family started a fund for survivors of domestic violence. As Celeste said, QUOTE "its really extremely important for women to understand that they don't have to deal with this, that they can talk to somebody, they don't have to be afraid.” The funds raised were given to The Shade Tree, a shelter for women and children in Las Vegas.
[John]
Originally Jason’s trial was filed on February 9th, 2011 for Debbie’s murder, and was set to start on November 28th, 2011.
Due to various legal arguments and wrangling the trial didn't start until May 5th, 2014, presided over by Judge Kathleen Delaney.
That might seem like a long time, and that’s because it is a very long time, but there were a litany of motions according to court documents on both sides that delayed the start of the trial such as
The trial lasted about two weeks.
The way the prosecutor Marc DiGiacomo presented the case was that Jason had choked Debbie and asphyxiated her with a plastic bag because she was standing in the way of his relationship with Agnes Roux. (An-yay Roo)
He said that Jason stoked and amplified Debbie’s frustration by lying often about his monogamy, and pulled away from her after accompanying her to the abortion clinic in May of 2010, only to reel her back in by offering her a gift as an olive branch on her 31st birthday in July.
One of the constants in the relationship was that they were off and on, broken up and together, over and over, and the times we’re aware of, it was Jason initiating the reconciliation.
[Shaun]
DiGiacomo also claimed that Jason had become depressed and suicidal between his arrest for domestic violence on October 22nd as we mentioned last week, and his 31st birthday, December 10th.
This isn't much of a stretch when you think about the fact that in November of 2010 the police transported and held him on the “legal 2000” hold we mentioned.
During the trial, the prosecution called one medical expert who testified that it might have only taken seconds for Debbie to become unconscious, but death would have taken much longer. They also called the medical examiner, and as you might expect, he testified that her autopsy was the worst he had ever completed. I can't imagine how horrific that autopsy must have been given what Jason did to Debbie post-mortem.
It's incredibly horrific.
The prosecution also included surveillance video of Jason and Loius buying the plastic tubs and concrete at Home Depot and of course the footage of them renting the UHaul and dollies on December 14th, along with the receipts for sponges and bleach.
He told the jury “You’re not allowed to hold on to a woman’s neck for 10 minutes and have it not be first-degree murder”. Essentially he’s saying that at some point Jason crossed the threshold into premeditation because as we talked about a few weeks ago, being strangled takes seconds, but being strangled to death takes much longer, and if it was in the “heat of the moment” why wouldn't he just let go?
They pointed out that while he was claiming this was done in self-defense (which contradicts the heat of the moment claim, btw), he also claimed that he had called the police many times on Debbie. Why wouldn't he call the police this time?
[John]
There was a lot of evidence here, both circumstantial and direct. On December 22nd, 2010, when Detective Dan Long interviewed Jason again, he made up a story about “two previous partners” who might have wanted to harm her. Jason spun the police a tale about how Debbie was contemplating ending her own life because she was distraught about the break up of their relationship and told the detectives to look for her near the overpass at Windmill Lane and the 215 Beltway.
We live just a few miles from there. Two of the corners of that intersection are strip malls (one is also a medical building), and the other two are a very busy running trail that I’ve spent a lot of time on, the 215 trail. I’ve run that trail many times, and I can't think of a location where a body wouldn't be found right away.
It was less busy and populated in 2011, but still.
He claimed again that on December 12th, he only had a brief interaction with Debbie, and that she didn't get out of the car. He said they talked and she drove away and just vanished without a trace. Note that the date of this interview, December 22nd, is the same day that Metro executed a search warrant on Jason’s house and recovered receipts for sponges and bleach
[Shaun]
The defense attorneys were Abel Yanez and Jeff Banks. The case they presented involved four days of testimony from Jason testifying that Debbie’s death was self-defense. He said that he grabbed her from behind with his arms around her neck when he thought that she was reaching for a purse that may have had a gun.
As it turned out, there was no gun, and there was no testimony from anyone that Debbie owned a gun, nor had she ever attempted to buy or borrow a gun.
[John]
It also occurs to me that his argument there makes no sense. I'm imagining a situation where someone has their back to me, and I think they’re reaching for a purse that might have a gun in it.
He said that he grabbed her by the neck, but that just doesn't sound logical to me. If you think someone is going for a gun, wouldn't you knock them down? Holding their neck might not prevent them from reaching that gun (assuming it exists) and threatening you with it.
None of it passes the smell test.
[Shaun]
I agree. He also said that after she died, he panicked and asked his roommate Louis to help dispose of the body. This is also strange because, for someone who is panicking, he certainly came up with a plan given the lengths he went to in order to hide Debbie’s body.
There’s also the fact that she had a plastic bag on her head. Jason claimed he had put that plastic bag on her head to see if she was still breathing.
DiGiacomo also pointed out that the self-defense claim was an obvious fabrication because if it were true, he would have stopped choking her when she was unconscious and/or rendered some kind of aid or called an ambulance.
Jason made quite a few claims during his 4 days on the witness stand, such as
This argument appears to have been a big misfire though. On cross examination by DiGiacomo, the DA insinuated that if this was true, perhaps he killed her because she and her pregnancy would hurt his relationship with Agnes, or that he killed her to head off another domestic violence charge that would hurt his career.
These arguments make no sense. For one, Louis was home the whole time. Jason didn’t call the the police for help, when he had in the past he had when she was allegedly being aggressive with him.
But most of all, Why would Debbie do that the night before the biggest break in her career with Sisqo that she’s been working toward for months?
[John]
It got worse for Jason. The DA pointed out that after the murder Jason had claimed he was not in possession of Debbie’s phone because it had been dumped in the neighborhood near his house, however, the GPS data pulled from the phone indicated it had been near the New York, New York hotel where Agnes show, Zumanity was.
Jason also claimed that a threatening letter had been left on his car in which Debbie threatened to kill him. The problem here was that there were text messages between him and Louis proving that Louis had written the note, not Debbie.
Regardless though, Jason’s overarching defense is that he killed her in self-defense. The defense spent a lot of energy portraying Debbie as volatile and violent and submitted a document to the court in which they claimed to have had access to four prior partners who would testify to her violence
Agnes was also called as a witness. She testified that she had broken up with Jason in the fall of 2010 after finding out about his various incidents of cheating on her, like sleeping with two other members of the Love show. She was apparently under the impression she was in a monogamous relationship with him but thought Debbie was just out of control, harassing and stalking Jason. She thought they had broken up in May. She didn’t know that they got back together around Debbie’s birthday.
She did tell the court, however, that she’s told Jason that she would get back together with him if he broke up with Debbie, which seems to bolster the prosecution’s claims that Debbie was getting in the way of his relationship with Agnes
Shaun mentioned a minute ago how there were text messages proving that the death threat notes that Debbie had allegedly written were actually written by Louis. This came out during Agnes' cross-examination and it was reported that when she learned that from the DA, as she was being cross-examined Agnes gave Jason quite a meaningful stare.
There was another thing that Agnes said that was very telling. When she was asked if she thought that Jason was suicidal, she replied that she did not think he was suicidal, but he was just “a great actor”.
[Shaun]
On May 22nd, 2014 after the two-week trial, Jason was found guilty of second-degree murder (not premeditated murder). His sentencing hearing was two months later, on July 23rd, and it lasted about an hour. The prosecution had been hoping for a verdict of first-degree murder, while the defense wanted it to be voluntary manslaughter.
During his sentencing hearing, Jason pled for mercy from the court, saying that he reached out for help to the police 14 times and he hoped that she, the judge would find it in her to give him some help finally.
The judge who was unswayed, did not mince words, saying “The responsibility for this toxic and ultimately tragic relationship continuing as long as it did is entirely yours,” Judge Delaney said. During their year-long on-again, off-again tumultuous relationship Jason time and again had opportunities to walk away, but he always went back, the judge said. “And for no other reason that I can discern from whatever was discussed at trial… The only reason I can see was to satisfy your own narcissistic predisposition.”
Jason was given the maximum sentence for second-degree murder, a life sentence with the possibility of parole, with a minimum sentence of 10 years. His first parole hearing was in 2020 because he had credit for almost 4 years served). His parole was denied, and his next parole opportunity is in 2026.
Griffith appealed his conviction to the Nevada Supreme Court, which ruled on it in 2016. There were several aspects to his appeal including
The Nevada Supreme Court did not find that any of the allegations warranted them overturning his conviction.
[John]
In 2023, Jason appealed again on the grounds of ineffective assistance of counsel. He pointed to 15 different examples where he claimed his counsel was ineffective, and all the points were denied. For example, he claimed that his counsel failed to bring in a “choke expert” as a part of his self-defense claim to discuss how he had choked Debbie.
In an evidentiary hearing, his counsel said they were concerned that testimony about the length of time he would have had to have strangled Debbie would have made a first-degree murder conviction more likely, and that was why they didn’t pursue it.
Debbie was laid to rest in Puerto Rico, but several memorials were held in her honor in 2011. On January 13 there was a private memorial held with her family, her work family held a memorial performance at the Luxor on January 14, and her high school also held a vigil in her memory on January 17, 2011.
At her memorial service held at the Luxor, Anita Mann said, “There was nothing she would not do. She wasn't that fantastically trained, but she attacked [dancing] with a vengeance... that's the way she attacked life, full out with a vengeance and a passion."
[Shaun]
There was also a benefit celebration for Debbie held at the Rio on January 26, 2011, with proceeds raised going to help the family cover expenses to lay Debbie to rest in Puerto Rico, and also for The Shade Tree.
According to the website created for the event, both Vegas and LA performers donated their time and talent for a show of dance, music, and art. Debbie had said, “The arts are my life.” It featured performances from the cast of Fantasy, as well as the MGM Crazy Horse Paris show, Vegas the Show, Thunder from Down Under, and the website lists that the event was sponsored by Penn and Teller, Carrot Top, and the Golden Steer restaurant. All 3 are true Las Vegas legends, and this really shows how Debbie’s death affected the entire community.
I was able to find a video of one of the performances from the benefit. Jennifer Romas did a contemporary dance to the song, This Woman’s Work. And to be honest, This Woman’s Work is next to impossible to listen to and not cry anyway, for me. Jennifer, who is a burlesque performer gave this dramatic, emotion-filled performance in honor of Debbie. It was gorgeous and moving, and I will share a link to it in the show notes. Jennifer is amazingly talented and continues to light up the stage here in Vegas.
[John]
The all-star cast that performed at Debbie’s benefit and the sponsors highlight what we’ve talked about in past episodes, about how people who don’t live here don’t really know the ways that our community will come together and look after each other in times of tragedy.
We heard from a family member of Nydia’s this past week, and Shaun and I wanted to take a moment and echo what she reminded us – That when one of these tragedies happens - when someone is murdered due to domestic violence or murdered, period. – that all of the family surrounding that person are also victims of the crime. In Debbie’s case, those victims included her show family and the community of performers as well.
[Shaun]
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